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Omega
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Ireland
669 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  06:29:03  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2011 :  07:50:26  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
should take some of the green outta the logo lol
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Omega
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Ireland
669 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  08:00:06  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nick_Admin

should take some of the green outta the logo lol



Do you feel the Pakistan Team will not be granted visa's to enter Australia or New Zealand ?
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skg13
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Singapore
143 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  08:39:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it is a really stupid decision by ICC to protect the interests of the test playing nations and also to make more money.
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/04/2011 :  08:49:05  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They say they do not have enough money to even afford "Hot Spot".

Maybe Nick can organise a whip round for the ICC via the forum or donate a % of online sales to the ICC.
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Nick_Admin
Admin

United Kingdom
26424 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  09:11:03  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The top 8 in the competition should be given automatic entry into the World Cup, the other 2 places should be subject to a play off outside the competition. This surely can be acheived over the four years
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Guesty
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111 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  10:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I say let as many countires join as they can (within reason), make the groups smaller like the football world cup so you only play 3 group games, seed it so the top teams still should all get through but the better weaker countires might have a chance of an upset. Play 2 games a day. That way you get more meaningful games, wider participation but you should still be able to shortern the length of the tournament.
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Nick_Admin
Admin

United Kingdom
26424 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  10:02:01  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
you have to ask, who wants to watch Holland v Ireland , is it worth it for the organisers, stadiums, tv companies
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/04/2011 :  10:12:52  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would expect the 40 million Irish Passport holders world wide would watch the game live in their respected regions. I'm also sure that plenty of Saffers and sub cont Asians would also tune into the goggle box for such a match. (after all Holland do tour India more than any of the Associate nations).

It was not so long ago Nick that a certain Hansie Cronjie (before his cargo plane flew into a mountain face) stated that England were so bad at ODI cricket they should be made qualify for the World Cup !

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Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2011 :  11:30:37  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
guessing they didnt though, otherwise if it was financially viable they would not make these decisions.
Maybe the Irish Passport holders are cancelling their sky subscriptions or using free ones.

money is tight
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The Man Hatter
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Mexico
122 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  11:51:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ICC was correct to remove the Minnows from the 2015 and 2019 World Cups.

Asian pitches helped level the playing field for Ireland. I can't see them many such impact on fast Australian pitches or seaming pitches in New Zealand.
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Omega
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Ireland
669 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  12:09:04  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nick_Admin

guessing they didnt though, otherwise if it was financially viable they would not make these decisions.
Maybe the Irish Passport holders are cancelling their sky subscriptions or using free ones.

money is tight



Which WC games do you suggest are the most financially viable Nick ? (for all future gatherings as it cannot be deemed as a WC as it is now a closed shop and teams from around the globe have been excluded).

\Bolton must indeed be a small place Nick if you think the holders of 40million Irish Passports reside in Sky only regions.

"Money is Tight" , having spoken to a few Irish Folk of late they are delighted will the billions of sterling lent to get Ireland out of a financial crisis (which comes around every 10-15 years) by their good friends in the UK. All they request now is a further 24billon Euros (not sure if that is per week or month) to stay afloat.


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Nick_Admin
Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2011 :  13:24:39  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Im raising a financial issue, obviously the revenue for this games was less , and therefore not worth having them.
Im not saying that those teams shouldnt be there on merit, but the world revolves around money in these times and if Ireland or Holland cannot attract the viewers, then surely this is the reason why they have been rejected.

However how do ireland become a top 10 team should be your question?
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Omega
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Ireland
669 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  13:47:07  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nick_Admin

Im raising a financial issue, obviously the revenue for this games was less , and therefore not worth having them.
Im not saying that those teams shouldnt be there on merit, but the world revolves around money in these times and if Ireland or Holland cannot attract the viewers, then surely this is the reason why they have been rejected.


"Post-tournament ratings from India suggest that viewing figures for The Netherlands game with India were half the amount of the most popular group stage game, against England in Bangalore. Interestingly, however, India’s game with Ireland attracted 84 percent of that peak total."

Source http://www.cricketeurope4.net/DATABASE/ARTICLES4/articles/000007/000720.shtml

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Omega
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Ireland
669 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  13:51:46  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nick_Admin

However how do ireland become a top 10 team should be your question?



No question Nick as Ireland are already ranked #10 in ODI's (ahead of Zimbabwe).

http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211271.html



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Nick_Admin
Admin

United Kingdom
26424 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  16:33:12  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
then it should be on world rankings then , suggest a campaign is launched
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