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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  11:21:37  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Simple answer Bob , all other nations should refuse to play India unless they adopt the norm.

Once their ranking slips due to lack of participation they might (might) even might consider getting in line.

There is an old saying about Indians but it cannot be published on public forums.
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Bob Martin
Professional

United Kingdom
2178 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2010 :  12:57:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There does appear to be some contradiction in the interpretation of the Regulations regarding the UDRS. On this website:

http://static.icc-cricket.yahoo.net/ugc/documents/DOC_2F720C5CFBDA32A9CDD7799A750491CF_1267593225017_980.pdf

It states quite unequivocally:
quote:
THIRD UMPIRE – DECISION REVIEW SYSTEM
1. General

1.1. The Decision Review System (DRS) will be used in all matches.


This begs the question, why does the ICC permit the two countries' boards to arrive at an agreement on its use ? This is the cause of all the problems.. If that is an ICC playing condition, then that should be the end of the matter. Use it or don't play recognised test matches.

However, here:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2010/content/current/story/494655.html

it states:

quote:
As per the ICC's regulations, the host country must decide on the use of the UDRS in consultation with the visiting nation. It was in South Africa's power as the host nation to insist on the use of the UDRS, but they did not do so


Therefore since it was CSA's choice not to use it, they only have themselves to blame for the problems that manifested themselves. Maybe they will learn the lesson that pandering to India's whims does not always pay dividends, at least not on the cricket field.

Furthermore, if the latter statement is true, then any host nation should insist on the UDRS. If they don't, then there's no point in complaining afterwards.

Edited by - Bob Martin on 30/12/2010 12:59:43
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:10:10  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think on my previous link Bob , CSA would rather keep in the good books with the Ingins as they may have more to gain. Bottom line still remains that two 3rd world countries paying for World Spot Number 1.

How the game has expanded to this level is well beyond me.
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Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:32:30  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What the bloody hell has third world countries got to do with anything. India are the fourth richest country in the world.
If that has any bearing on how a squad of players actually play.
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Bob Martin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:40:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I've posted elsewhere, match results should depend on the skills, or lack of them, of the players not on the mistakes of the officials. That is why I've always been in favour of the UDRS... altho not in it's current form. IMHO opinion leave the decision to refer to the umpires, as was the case in the Stanford T20 competition where it seemed to work well. It also works well enough for decisions that umpires can refer and players cannot challenge e.g. run-out, stumped, catch carrying, out decisions from marginal no-balls , etc.
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:41:02  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They maybe your selected 4th richest country in the world but the mass of the population live in dire poverty.

China are minted and still their population are living well below the rice line.

I suppose it's how one looks on life in general.

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Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:45:21  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
whats your point about being a 3rd world country ? what difference does this make?
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:51:34  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How is it allowed that a 3rd world country can and be allowed to run the second largest sport on the planet ?
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Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  16:56:36  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
again Omega , what is your point about a third world? Are you saying they are less entitled?
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  17:04:16  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They cannot run a tap in their own country yet all other SO called cricket nations allow them to control the ICC.
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Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  17:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Very rich country , with most of the population loving cricket. Your view is very blinkered.
You are saying because they have poverty, they dont have the right to have a say!!!

Get your country in order before you can have a say..... lol

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Omega
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Ireland
669 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2010 :  17:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nick_Admin

Very rich country , with most of the population loving cricket. Your view is very blinkered.
You are saying because they have poverty, they dont have the right to have a say!!!

Get your country in order before you can have a say..... lol





Maybe you can visit India and we can hook up and then let me know how you love the past Colony ?

If I was blinkered Nick I would be living in Bolton ! lol

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Nick_Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  17:23:56  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think you will find many people on this forum either are indian or have visited.

You ever been to Bolton?
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Nick_Admin
Admin

United Kingdom
26424 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2010 :  17:33:47  Show Profile  Visit Nick_Admin's Homepage  Click to see Nick_Admin's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
or norden ?
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Omega
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Ireland
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Posted - 30/12/2010 :  17:34:16  Show Profile  Visit Omega's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Many years ago Nick.

Are you guys still Lancs or Central Lancs League ?

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