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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/04/2011 : 12:43:40
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Originally posted by Omega
And as it happens a number of "UK" niche operations where the part finished blades are imported from India for minor finishing and labelling here.
Would you have an idea on how many bats are imported from Asia for this purpose per year (not season) ?
In truth I don't have an accurate figure, gut feeling would be 1,000 to 2,000.
What do you think?
Kind regards
Edward |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2011 : 13:35:28
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Originally posted by Edward Lowy
quote:
Originally posted by Omega
And as it happens a number of "UK" niche operations where the part finished blades are imported from India for minor finishing and labelling here.
Would you have an idea on how many bats are imported from Asia for this purpose per year (not season) ?
In truth I don't have an accurate figure, gut feeling would be 1,000 to 2,000.
What do you think?
Kind regards
Edward
I would think it closer to the 5k mark across the ranges of willow being used in Asia.
That would exclude the unfinished bats arriving into the UK by "Tourists".
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roco
Amateur
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 09:00:31
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| No all English willow gm bats are made in Nottingham they looked into having them made in India but decided against it |
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Tykemania
Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 09:48:33
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Originally posted by Edward Lowy
1 I have no problem with constructive debate. I do have a problem with straightforward explanations being twisted.
Labelling operations : Adidas, Puma, Slazenger for example. And as it happens a number of "UK" niche operations where the part finished blades are imported from India for minor finishing and labelling here.
2 Yes. Yes. Yes.
Labelling - we know that these companies do import their bats but you may note that reviews that their bats receive are very good most of the time (though personally I have seen a lot of Slazenger's break, though I accept I may be alone in that)
As for the "three yeses", accepting the DXM would take a very long time to explain, how do you feel that your G1 willow is better, and what - in terms of the actual bats - do you feel justifies that additional sum? |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 10:17:08
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@ Edward
Is it possible that GM have cricket bat decals that state "DXM APEX" (blue/chrome)and "DXM FLARE" (red/chrome) with the additional printing of "Hand Made in India" ???
Please note the stickers do not state "English Willow" anywhere on them. |
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roco
Amateur
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:12:02
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| He has already said ALL gm English willow bats are made in Nottingham so why would they have made in India on????? |
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Guesty
Amateur
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:32:40
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RE "labbelling operations" - of course some bats are imported but labelling operations can also mean a quality bat maker in England makes the bats on behalf of a company. Im pretty sure middle to top end Pumas are contracted out to a known English bat maker and i heard that Addidas are the same. Hence why the bigger labelling companies still produce good bats. Dont get sucked in to thinking just because they dont have their own batmaker they import all their bats.
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:32:42
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| Please allow Edward to answer this Roco. |
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Guesty
Amateur
111 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:33:20
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Originally posted by Omega
Please allow Edward to answer this Roco.
But he already has by stating all bats are made in Nottingham. |
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:36:44
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Originally posted by Tykemania
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Originally posted by Edward Lowy
1 I have no problem with constructive debate. I do have a problem with straightforward explanations being twisted.
Labelling operations : Adidas, Puma, Slazenger for example. And as it happens a number of "UK" niche operations where the part finished blades are imported from India for minor finishing and labelling here.
2 Yes. Yes. Yes.
Labelling - we know that these companies do import their bats but you may note that reviews that their bats receive are very good most of the time (though personally I have seen a lot of Slazenger's break, though I accept I may be alone in that)
As for the "three yeses", accepting the DXM would take a very long time to explain, how do you feel that your G1 willow is better, and what - in terms of the actual bats - do you feel justifies that additional sum?
The design process is very exacting before any manufacture starts. Our grading and selection of willow is stricter than many companies, our conditioning of the timber pre machining and during manufacture is superior, our fundamental processes are more consistent. Our hand finishing through the skill of our craftsmen is superb.
I suggest you get some feedback from folk who have actually seen how we - and perhaps other companies - make their bats. In terms of value, it is for the market place to decide.
Kind regards
Edward |
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:42:31
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Originally posted by Omega
@ Edward
Is it possible that GM have cricket bat decals that state "DXM APEX" (blue/chrome)and "DXM FLARE" (red/chrome) with the additional printing of "Hand Made in India" ???
Please note the stickers do not state "English Willow" anywhere on them.
Yes it is possible on two counts. (1) GM bats are made under license in India from English Willow for the Indian market by the Indian licensee. Current manufacture no longer says DXM.
(2) GM source Kashmir Willow bats, made in India for the bottom end of the market and these bats are marketed worldwide. They neither pretend to be made in England nor to be made of English Willow. Current manufacture of these bats will no longer say DXM. These grades, as shown on our website are 101 or 202.
Kind regards
Edward |
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:43:12
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Originally posted by Omega
Please allow Edward to answer this Roco.
Easy tiger! |
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 11:44:43
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Originally posted by Guesty
RE "labbelling operations" - of course some bats are imported but labelling operations can also mean a quality bat maker in England makes the bats on behalf of a company. Im pretty sure middle to top end Pumas are contracted out to a known English bat maker and i heard that Addidas are the same. Hence why the bigger labelling companies still produce good bats. Dont get sucked in to thinking just because they dont have their own batmaker they import all their bats.
So you mean they they do remain "labelling operations", such label firms have no bat making expertise themselves?
Kind regards
Edward |
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Omega
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Ireland
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Nick_Admin
Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2011 : 12:25:23
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Can you clear up why they are called DXM if they are hand made Edward?
or are you saying they will no longer be called DXM (next year)
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