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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
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 Posted - 30/03/2011 : 11:15:40
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Originally posted by Nick_Admin
Lol , the new GM Galaxy , and GM Toblerone will be out next year :-)
GM Fruit & Nut ! |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 11:17:22
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It was a little more than that but feel free to ask Edward as they said there buissness plan included retailers but I suppose you know more than most?
I was merely making an observation Roco. |
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roco
Amateur
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 11:35:27
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| You are free to make an observation but gm selling direct does not make sense to me as for it to work they would have to undercut all the shop prices thus ruin the relationship they have built up with retailers over many years which does not seem logical |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 11:47:05
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Why would they need to uncut too the extent of losing retailers ? Many retailers around the world sell GM and not all for the same price so I cannot see a problem with that.
Plus if dealing with GM Direct dot com it saves time for customers who have an issue with a purchased product or just a general query about GM. |
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roco
Amateur
United Kingdom
484 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 11:55:40
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Well we will have to disagree as from listening to the gm guys it's not something they will be doing
I can see the logic of going direct but if you can go direct for the same or slightly cheaper price why would you go to a retailor so the retailers sales will suffer no? |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 13:19:58
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I would always look to go direct as I am dealing directly with the brand and not some sales person who is representing all other brands in the retail unit and is happy for a pay cheque at the end of the week/month ?
The question is, if one wanted to purchase a GM product would that person prefer to deal direct with GM or deal with a retailer that may not know the GM range of products to the same spec as the brand itself ?
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roco
Amateur
United Kingdom
484 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 13:41:25
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Like I said most if not all would prefer to go direct as is easier to get the little details right but if you want to go direct you have to go to the smaller boutique brands I have found
The guys at gm will have more knowledge about there product compared to retail outlets which I agree with you but gm don't sell direct so is a mute point really |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 13:51:02
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Wind back a page where I suggested www.gm-direct.com as a way that I see GM going forward.
I'm glad we agree as it makes sense if one is the consumer of GM products and demands the best customer service from the said brand. |
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roco
Amateur
United Kingdom
484 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 13:58:04
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| I agree that it would be much easier to go direct but I highly doubt it will happen unless there is a vast shift in policy and tradition from gm but we shall see I'm sure Edward appreciates all ideas |
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Omega
Semi-Pro
Ireland
669 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 14:27:32
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Tradition does not count for much anymore as you can see with GM they have embraced technology and removed alot of their bat production from Asia.
As you will have noticed Slazenger have taken the selling the direct route.
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Tykemania
Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 15:04:32
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Originally posted by Edward Lowy
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Originally posted by Tykemania
If that is the case, why are some manufacturers raising their prices hand over fist when others are remaining entirely static? I appreciate such things as R&D but if Solitaire et al can offer G1 willow at £100 then it cannot be that prohibitively expensive...
I can only speak for GM. Solitaire looks to be a very different sort of operation to GM - do they just sell direct to the public?
They do - but my observation remains valid - if their willow and therefore bat prices are remaining static (and lots of other manufacturers are in this position) then why do the bigger brands keep jakking up prices? |
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 15:47:54
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Originally posted by Rdawson88
DXM machining costs must come into it though, i remember my brother buying the yellow hero for around £280 and now prices are at £300 for an L/E. The amount of G1 wood cant be that limited that it raises that much.
I am also very surpised the amount that pads and gloves have suddenly increased. I agree with a small amount due to the breakthrough in d30 technology. But the fact Gunn and moore and Nics have now brought the range up ot the £100 kahuna mark for very little increase in a better pad seems barmy in the climate.
I do apologise if its seems directed towards GM, i dont mean it to be, all the big names just seem to be shooting themselves in the foot.
Nope, can't blame DXM, it is extremely efficient. Yes, can blame willow input rises, and yes Grade 1 (let alone the top end of Grade 1 that we use in LE's) rises disproportionately compared to other grades because of it's scarcity.
We do not set retail prices - we set trade prices, then it's over to the retailer. In terms of software - actually in terms of cricket product generally - GM do not, nor can I imagine other brands, set prices to be uncompetitive. Input prices from India on soft leather goods rose between 25% & 60% for the 2011 season. We absorbed some of the rise but much of it has to be passed down the chain. Indian inflation is relatively high, input prices in India have risen substantially as has labour. And don't get me started on freight...
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 : 15:49:22
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Originally posted by Omega
Tradition does not count for much anymore as you can see with GM they have embraced technology and removed alot of their bat production from Asia.
As you will have noticed Slazenger have taken the selling the direct route.
Confused.com...
We have not removed production from Asia, we have only ever made English Willow bats in Nottingham. With DXM we just make them better and more efficiently.
Where are Slaz selling direct?
Kind regards
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 15:51:49
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Originally posted by roco
It was a little more than that but feel free to ask Edward as they said there buissness plan included retailers but I suppose you know more than most?
Quite right Roco, our distribution does now and will always include retailers.
Would people like to buy direct from us?
Kind regards
Edward |
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Edward Lowy
Managing Director: Unicorn Products Ltd
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2011 : 16:01:50
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Originally posted by Tykemania
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Originally posted by Edward Lowy
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Originally posted by Tykemania
If that is the case, why are some manufacturers raising their prices hand over fist when others are remaining entirely static? I appreciate such things as R&D but if Solitaire et al can offer G1 willow at £100 then it cannot be that prohibitively expensive...
I can only speak for GM. Solitaire looks to be a very different sort of operation to GM - do they just sell direct to the public?
They do - but my observation remains valid - if their willow and therefore bat prices are remaining static (and lots of other manufacturers are in this position) then why do the bigger brands keep jakking up prices?
I hate the word but I think you need to look a bit deeper at different business "models". GM is a quality, volume manufacturer where all production, marketing and distribution overheads have to be paid for. In my view it is naive to look at a single cost in isolation and then to extrapolate from that that something is "cheap" or "expensive".
Kind regards
Edward
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