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| Off Flint |
Posted - 19/09/2011 : 15:57:46
I've just received a Luna 606 that I ordered on-line and I'm not happy.
The "minor blemish" allowed by GM for a 606 rating is pretty large and exactly in the sweet spot. I know it is the end of the season and the best ones have been picked but surely this is not what you would expect from a £125 grade 3 bat.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/56685850@N03/6163011750/in/photostream
Your opinions please. |
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| Omega |
Posted - 01/11/2011 : 00:38:29
Now one can understand why bat makers/brands do not offer a guarantee on bats.
Rgds,
99.99%
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| Nick_Admin |
Posted - 31/10/2011 : 10:00:08
When i got a new bat, i would give it to everyone in the nets to practice with, some good players and some lunatics, a great way to get a bat knocked in , My kahuna warrior (£80) was the best bat I have EVER had using this method.. |
| awyldebr |
Posted - 31/10/2011 : 09:42:27
quote:
Originally posted by Nick_Admin
@offflint , you had a preconceived complaint about the bat , it was bound to disappoint, glad you got a replacement/refund, not sure i agree with what you have done, but you can see how retailers have to put up with this type of complaint which in the past would not have happpened.
Wholeheartedly seconded. The other thing I don't think you considered, OffFlint, is that this cleft only has 6 grains across the face. With willow like this, you need to knock it in more to get the same result. Even if it didn't feel great the first time in the nets, I can absolutely guarantee it would have performed far better after a couple of weeks of use. Even with services like GM Now, cricket bats still need time and preparation to mature, and it's generally worth the effort. |
| Nick_Admin |
Posted - 31/10/2011 : 09:11:49
@offflint , you had a preconceived complaint about the bat , it was bound to disappoint, glad you got a replacement/refund, not sure i agree with what you have done, but you can see how retailers have to put up with this type of complaint which in the past would not have happpened. |
| Omega |
Posted - 31/10/2011 : 05:05:12
Canadian or Irish Willow is the answer and there is no short supply of english willow. |
| Off Flint |
Posted - 30/10/2011 : 21:43:13
Just to clarify. I did try it in the nets. The pitch was wet so I could see exactly where each shot came off the bat. I tried to have a open mind but even with me wanting to like the bat (not at least for the hassle of returning it) it did not feel right. |
| Nick_Admin |
Posted - 25/10/2011 : 19:36:10
its so sad that this happens , I would never have blamed the knots in a bat - in years gone by the bat colour was never used as an excuse. It was the knocking in etc etc. Things like this will simply push the price of bats up and up and further up, as retailers wont have bats with blemishes as more and more fickle people complain. willow is already in short supply, all i can say is be prepared to pay £700+ for a grade 1 bat.
And dont moan when it comes !!! |
| Off Flint |
Posted - 25/10/2011 : 18:37:10
Last weekend I was in the UK and took the bat back. Explained the situation and asked what their returns policy was. They gave me a full refund. |
| Off Flint |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 08:26:52
Yes he has thank you.
He explained that the mark is, "...almost certainly a result of an aerial root commonly found in the bottom round of a tree grown in thick vegetation where a small root has started to sprout but does not grow to any size.
Such marks are blemishes but generally slightly harder than the surrounding willow but it will have good driving power as it is in the sweetspot and being harder will give more rebound to the ball without any vibration in the player's hands".
While true, keeping a ball in the air there is less vibration than my CA 10,000 (itself a very nice bat) the said area feels dead. The problem is I can't tell 100% if that is because it is heading towards the toe area or it's because of the mark. |
| Edward Lowy |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 15:05:23
Peter Wright replied to you yesterday, which I hope you have found helpful
Kind regards
Edward |
| Off Flint |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 08:54:34
I have to admit to being a little anal here. It is very very nice. It feels just so nice in my hands. I hope you can imagine though, looking forward to the bat arriving and then opening it to see the mark in the driving area. Yes it is harder than the surrounding willow but that will help me with knocking in (personal preference), right? I still have not had the chance to use it in the nets yet. That's where the real test will be. As for returning it after 12months, but I'm not that cheeky. |
| Nick_Admin |
Posted - 21/09/2011 : 01:39:46
I suggest you use the bat, if its terrible send it back, we receive bats upto 12m after purchase.
However don't wait too long. Where did u buy this bat from? |
| Off Flint |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 13:01:58
quote:
I believe that you have contacted us yesterday through our website about this bat, so better that I let the correspondence flow through there.
As a point, the bat is already knocked in. We don't have an "end of season" as you put it, production at our factory in Nottingham is all year round servicing all global markets.
Kind regards
Edward Lowy
Group Managing Director
Yes I had mentioned that I was posting here just to be fair and give you the opportunity to respond.
I'm not trying to cheese people off here I'm just trying to say I am surprised with the size and position of the mark in question. With most things it all depends on interpretation.
To quote the GM website,
606 Minor blemishes with some colour on one edge
505 Minor knot marks with some light stain/speck
404 Knot marks with some stain/speck
all grade 3 willow
Looking at the photos, am I wrong in thinking it is something like a 505 at best? Am I being unreasonable? Please, again, I am not a expert. What is the difference between blemish and stain?
I know GM go to the time and trouble to prepare their bats, it's just a personal thing to hit it myself. Also end of season was referring to the UK cricket season of course where in the UK the best of the bunch have been picked first.
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| Edward Lowy |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 09:32:14
quote:
Originally posted by Off Flint
I've got no reason to doubt you but I hope you understand that I'll have to check with the supplier about 'knocking in' a bat and then possibly returning it.
For the record. Where do you draw the line between a blemish and a defect? Surely a defect affects the performance of the bat.
I'm not trying to be funny but if I tap it hard and there is a duller sound around the 'abnormality' and then spend a few hours with a mallet, is the comparison with a spring correct? I mean if I compress two different densities in the sweet spot area, you will never get a consistent bat. And no matter what your level of cricket you'd notice it, right?
I believe that you have contacted us yesterday through our website about this bat, so better that I let the correspondence flow through there.
As a point, the bat is already knocked in. We don't have an "end of season" as you put it, production at our factory in Nottingham is all year round servicing all global markets.
Kind regards
Edward Lowy
Group Managing Director |
| Off Flint |
Posted - 20/09/2011 : 01:14:04
I've got no reason to doubt you but I hope you understand that I'll have to check with the supplier about 'knocking in' a bat and then possibly returning it.
For the record. Where do you draw the line between a blemish and a defect? Surely a defect affects the performance of the bat.
I'm not trying to be funny but if I tap it hard and there is a duller sound around the 'abnormality' and then spend a few hours with a mallet, is the comparison with a spring correct? I mean if I compress two different densities in the sweet spot area, you will never get a consistent bat. And no matter what your level of cricket you'd notice it, right? |
